Now Auchinleck or bAuchentiber/b maybe :-). PurityofEssence :- Could you expand on what you mean by "what I think is OK but isn't" and why individuals like myself make your head hurt? I have no problem trying to explain my views if you tell me what specific point you would like an b....../b *Forgive the use of the term, which is oft' misused by the fourth bestate/b for muddying the waters & by association our ghood name ? but in this instance I believe the nomenclature is correct. ...